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Voters oppose guns in restaurants

Postby david_g17 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:25 am

http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.as ... yid=128581

Voters oppose guns in restaurants
By Chas Sisk, The Tennessean

A law that allows handguns into bars and restaurants that serve alcohol is proving to be unpopular with Tennesseans.

Seven in 10 voters said they oppose the law passed earlier this year that lets holders of handgun carry permits take their weapons into any establishment that sells alcohol. Supporters of the gun law say it will make the state safer, but voters said in interviews that the prospect of guns mixing with alcohol is too dangerous.

"No one wants them there," said Carol Yager, a Brentwood woman who took part in the poll taken by Mason-Dixon for Tennessee Newspaper Network and WBIR-TV.

The findings match the results of earlier polls taken by Middle Tennessee State University and on behalf of the state tourism industry, both of which showed widespread opposition to the law. Nonetheless, state lawmakers twice passed measures permitting guns in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol in the last two years, both times over the veto of Gov. Phil Bredesen.

"You would think they (legislators) would vote the way their constituents want," said Will Cheek, a Nashville attorney who led a successful legal challenge to the first of the two gun laws. "I think the legislators are out of touch with the people."

A statistically equal portion of men and women were against the gun law, and opposition was even across the state's three grand divisions.

Eighty-two percent of Democrats and 71 percent of independents were opposed to the gun law, but a majority of Republicans, 59 percent, was against it as well.

David Deckard, a 59-year-old autoworker from Lynnville, said the law simply does not fit modern Tennessee.

"We're not living back in the 1800's," he said. "It's not like we're a bunch of cowboys. ... They need to leave their guns in their cars."

One of the law's sponsors, state Rep. Curry Todd, R-Collierville, said the results were not convincing. He said pollsters should have pointed out that the law says people cannot drink while carrying, applies only to places that also serve food and can be preempted by restaurant owners who post a sign at their entrances barring handguns.

"You can get different poll results just based on how the question is proposed," he said. "I don't think it (the poll) is right. I think a majority of folks in the state of Tennessee don't have a problem with it."
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Re: Voters oppose guns in restaurants

Postby ProguninTN » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:39 am

Rep. Todd is correct. Having studied polls in my college coursework, results can be skewed on the wording of the question. I strongly suspect that "guns in bars" terminology was used rather than "restaurant carry". I also believe that many are unaware of or deliberately ignore the fact that the individual business owner may elect to post his/her establishment as Randy Rayburn has done.
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Re: Voters oppose guns in restaurants

Postby David Lewis » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:08 pm

david_g17 wrote:http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=128581

Voters oppose guns in restaurants
By Chas Sisk, The Tennessean

...
"No one wants them there," said Carol Yager, a Brentwood woman who took part in the poll taken by Mason-Dixon for Tennessee Newspaper Network and WBIR-TV.
...
"You would think they (legislators) would vote the way their constituents want," said Will Cheek, a Nashville attorney who led a successful legal challenge to the first of the two gun laws. "I think the legislators are out of touch with the people."


First, the fact that the woman is from Brentwood is enough to invalidate her claims. Many, but by no means all, of the inhabitants thereof are liberal transplants--meaning, "they ain't from around here"--and unfortunately, they are the ones who seem to be interviewed by the media.

As to Mr. Cheek's comment about legislators voting their constituent wishes: obviously, they did. It's Mr. Cheek and the media who are out of touch with the people in this instance, not the legislators.

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Re: Voters oppose guns in restaurants

Postby 1gewehr » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:08 pm

This poll is less accurate than my informal poll about the Tennesseean reporting accuracy. 5 out of 6 of my friends and neighbors agree that Tennesseean polls and reporting is usually mostly inaccurate. The 6th person had their mouth full and was not understandable (and probably not printable!),
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Re: Voters oppose guns in restaurants

Postby Fred762 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:13 pm

When you run into a person who says they don't want "guns in restaurants" as them who the heck do they think will protect THEM if a bunch of thugs like a flash mob, storm in to rob them, shoot them or take the wives and daughters hostages??

They will reply something about "calling the police".. You just smile and ask them what will they DO til the police get there after 20-30 minutes!! What would they DO if the thugs just decided to NOT await the cops, but instead just started shooting..or grabbed several women and fled in a white van. Most sheeple have never thought thru this problem set. Maybe it will at least get them to think.
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