223, 6.5, and 6.8 now Pistol Ammo?

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223, 6.5, and 6.8 now Pistol Ammo?

Postby redbarron06 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:58 am

From Elite Ammunition.

BATF and EA Recent Finding.

EA has had to remove our Trident bullets in .223, 6.5 Grendel and 6.8 SPC. The BATF has ruled that all of these cartridges are now pistol cartridges. Since they are now pistol cartridges their construction now falls under the content and construction limitations of the 68 GAC and pistol cartridges.

Currently from other bullet makers like Barnes, solid .223 caliber bullets are still being manufactured and sold . We are working with our BATF IOI person to find out the following,

A) Is Barnes bullets and all other maker that constructs solid bullets in .223 going to have to stop.
B) If not then why do we have to stop since out basic shape and metallurgical content of our PFP bullets are the same as theirs?
C) Since they are now handgun caliber limited how does Magtech solid copper pistol bullets not fall under the 68 GAC as AP?
D) If Solid copper is not considered a violation of the 68 GAC in handgun bullets then it should also be not a violation of the 68 GAC to make EA’s PFP bullets from solid copper as Magtech does.

Those who have T6 ammunition and PFP bullets will be contacted by the BATF to recover any bullets or ammunition that have not been FIRED yet.

I apologize for this inconvenience and hopefully we can get this matter straightened out one way or another.

Jay Wolf
Pr. Elite Ammunition


According to Jay on another forum

Yes we where raided. 15 grand in stock taken off our shelves, computers and anything else they wanted.


They had a ruling and it was created the day before. The search warrant was created late that afternoon of the same day and in the morning the 8 ATF folkes where coming through my door.

They let me look at it but not make copies and did not bring copies for me of the new interpretation.




Has anbody else heard about this?
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Re: 223, 6.5, and 6.8 now Pistol Ammo?

Postby 1gewehr » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:41 pm

There is nothing on the elite Ammunition website. Please provide links when you find something.
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Re: 223, 6.5, and 6.8 now Pistol Ammo?

Postby C. Richard Archie » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:28 pm

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Re: 223, 6.5, and 6.8 now Pistol Ammo?

Postby redbarron06 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:12 pm

1gewehr wrote:There is nothing on the elite Ammunition website. Please provide links when you find something.
It is in the news letter section

http://www.eliteammunition.net/newslett ... /81014.htm

Here is a link to Jays posting on another forum

http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/index. ... &p=1497307
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